Engine swaps? i dont understand but i am new
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@861f7da813=Mechanic:
Good luck blowing your K8 up i didn't manage and i kicked the s**t out of it on the track and road… for fair few miles. God that lumps strong..
Wish i could say the same about the 3rd gear :P
lol,i aint going to deliberatly do it,jus give it a bit more then i usually do knowing im safe for another engne.
hows your 2.5 copped mechanic?
is it easy to work on like changin cam belt and oil and air filters?
thanks
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Turbo engines can fit into the mx3's how ever, there is a fair bit of work to be done, i.e mazota, had to roll the chassis legs and bits just do we could get the engine in.
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The powers just right, enough for a fwd anyway… Been in talks with a fabrication company about making me a rear craddle for mine.
Hoping to get another KLZE and drop it in the boot..
5 Litre, 8 cams, 48 Valves, AWD 420 Bhp . . yum yum..
Just gotta sell some other projects first.. Then it's out with the grinder..
As for working on, yeah they are ok.. plenty of room and fairly well designed..
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@d8af8a65c1=Welly:
Turbo engines can fit into the mx3's how ever, there is a fair bit of work to be done, i.e mazota, had to roll the chassis legs and bits just do we could get the engine in.
been looking at the turbo mods and i think its a bit pricey for me 1-2k,i was thinking there was may be a mazda that was standard a turbo that i could just pull the engine out and fit but not by the sounds of it.
200bhp with the klze will suite me down to the ground.
mechanic lol,i know some one thats got a mini with rotary engine in that wants to put a rotary in the boot as well lol.
will be mean.i cant beleive the k8 standard v6 only pull 130 bhp,thats low for a v6,can get 150 bhp out of vauxhall DOHC 2.0 16valves standard.
when i sort body out and have spare cash im just going to mooch for a smashed or mot failed probe or mx6.
if i get a hole mx6 "ive seen them the chapest", do i need to change the gear box and ecu?
im thinking of just pulling the lot out of mine and putting all the other in to save messing about and keep money and time to a minimum.
thanks again lads,really appreciate it
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you can chang the ecu or chip the k8 ecu
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@b3bbab6c42=james:
you can chang the ecu or chip the k8 ecu
yea was just reading about a bloke in usa who does chips for $45 think it was jonos post on engine swaps.
will have a look for chang.
so why does it need chipping if engine runs ok in the mx6 with out chipping?
im on about buying a mx6 with every thing and swapping the hole engine,gear box and ecu in to mine "well thats the plan" but need to understand a little more..
thanks
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o if your useing the mx6 ecu then its fine i ment if you use the k8 ecu one in the car then that needs chiping
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@0cbaaf8aca=james:
o if your useing the mx6 ecu then its fine i ment if you use the k8 ecu one in the car then that needs chiping
lol,i just thought that and posted on other thread.
yeah i get you now,if i use my standard k8 ecu it will need chipping.
i want to do what youve done with the xedos mate,infact exactly what youve done.
thanks
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well being a Xedos 9 with the full millenia 2.5 its best to use the k8 chiped coz of the veris valves in the inlet there 3 difrent inlets short neck long neck ans the millenia curv neck
i think the long neck goes with a kl31 ecu
and the short with a kl01 ecu
but the curv neck it more like the k8 inlet so use the k8 chiped ecu
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@bb6c52c87e=james:
well being a Xedos 9 with the full millenia 2.5 its best to use the k8 chiped coz of the veris valves in the inlet there 3 difrent inlets short neck long neck ans the millenia curv neck
i think the long neck goes with a kl31 ecu
and the short with a kl01 ecu
but the curv neck it more like the k8 inlet so use the k8 chiped ecui get you mate,
im just going to what evers cheapest with least miles and most serviced when i do,what chip are you going for?
thanksps should have a shout box like msn on here
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Just make sure you get a KLZE (from Japan only) not the KLDE that came in the MX-6 or Probe over here.
Bare Minimum
- Engine will set you back £450 inc delivery from Nippon Spares
- Probinator Chip for ECU £25 (if running curved neck manifold)
- KL31 or KL36 ECU £50 - £100 (if running straight neck manifold)
I would get these done while you have the engine out
- Cam Belt
- Standard Clutch Kit £130 Performance Clutch £200+
Upgrades that compliment the engine swap
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Airfilter £20 - £100 ( do yourself a favour here and buy a K&N )
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Stainless Cat Back exhaust £300
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Stainless Manifolds and downpipe £150
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Stainless Decat £30
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Underdrive pulley £35
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Auxillery belt for Underdrive pulley £20
Thats assuming the engine you get is in top condition and you don't have to re-build it
- Head gasket set £80
- Head bolts £50
- Valve spring compressor £30
- Valve grind kit and paste £20
- Thermostat £7.5
Then you have to service it
- Oil filter £3
- Fully Synthetic 5W 30 Oil £10 - £15
- Gearbox oil £20
- Fuel filter £2.5
- Power steering Fluid £10 - £15
Then there is labour costs if your not doing it yourself
- Your looking at £250 - £500 to get a small garage to do the swap for you
I would then…
- look at upgrading your brake pads to EBC greenstuff £55 or something like a Mintex 1144 £65
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@b9d8306477=ukmx3admin:
Fuel filter £2.5
Tell me were you get your fuel filter please, mine cost a bomb?
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Mechanic,
Does your 1.8 gearbox not screem with the 2.5 bolted on? It will only do 135mph in 5th a 7000rpm..
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It does struggle a bit, i have a spare K8 gerabox that i am gonna play with.
My KLZE rev's to 8000 rpm, i dont hold it in that band but when i need to get moving i do use it. :shock:
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I guess that give you a theoricial top speed on the limiter at 154 mph on standard 15" mx3 alloys? Im surprised the gearbox and clutch can handle the torque…!!
Makes me want to replace my engine! I must affect the handling though with that extra nose weight?
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I have a stage 1 exedy clutch, a little heavy but doesnt slip.
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@4d09ae790a=pdtrewern:
It must affect the handling though with that extra nose weight?
It's 6lbs heavier than 1.8 ;) Replace the stock exhaust with ebay headers and you've probably less weight over front, so don't worry about that!
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possibly yess with the theoretical top speed, but i saaw 157.8 on gps down hanger straight in min
bearing in mind i have 2 fiberglass buckets and a roll cage and a relocated battery and had virtually nothing in the tank, but… personally i rekon she had more
i run an mx6 box with a "3" flywheel in mine though, only difference with the 6's box is it has a longer 5th... possibly the reason??
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yea think the mx6/626 box has taller final gear, meaning all gears are longer, but also a longer 5th. I can never remember that correctly though :lol: But that's some speed, well done! And legal :D
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yep that's the reason you could reach that speed…
normal mx-3 tranny wouldn't go that high with the gearing...
