Engine swaps?
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Mine is a 96 model, and I'm currently getting a DE stage 2 race spec put in…
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Just because its 95/96 doesnt make it a obd2 marco has a late 96 and its obd1
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Mine are late 95, but yea do NOT use the registration date as a reference for OBD. My cars are both 93 model IIRC. That's 2 years earlier than the year of registration. I was told I couldn't swap because it was 95 :roll:
Check the HOW TO for the absolute way of checking, just pop off the RHS passenger footwell panel and look:
http://uk-mx3.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1700
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soo how can i tell if its a 1 or a 2? i know everyone says to do the ze swap but i dont wanna kill myself lol.
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@799d484ddb=daniel:
soo how can i tell if its a 1 or a 2? i know everyone says to do the ze swap but i dont wanna kill myself lol.
srlsy:
@799d484ddb=Marco:Check the HOW TO for the absolute way of checking, just pop off the RHS passenger footwell panel and look:
http://uk-mx3.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1700
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sorry marco i was writing at the same time as u. ill have a look at that link now. sorry it takes so long but im using my mobile ha
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no problem :P
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cool i will check that once the snow clears a bit. so if tha chip pictured has a 1685 or something like that its a no and it has to have 3 yellow connectors rather than 4. if it is an obd1 but starts with 16 i am guessing i just replace the ecu as well
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The important section is: @8520519fba:
What OBD do I have?
Whether it can be chipped or not is less important at this stage, as you could easily swap ecus. Really just count the plugs- you want to see 3 for OBDI. Also my ecu had grey connectors, but still OBDI.
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hi i jut had a quick look though it is getting dark and i saw 3 yellow connectors just under the plastic cover. if it was 4 would it be in the same place or somewhere else. i got my fingers crossed now lol.
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air bag doesnt mean thing either, mine was airbag fitted and 95 reg like marcos and was obd1.
Dont know if this is right or not but heard there wasnt any obd2 mx6 or probe as they were discontinued earlier than the mx-3?. Could just be mis-informed tho.
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well as far as i know now it is an obd1 and not an obd2. i will have a better look tomorrow as i left the plastic cover off so i can have a proper look in daylight. i really hope i saw right :-)
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I thought the easiest way to find out if obd1 or obd2 was to look at the number of plug connectors to the ECU 3 = obd1 - 4 = obd2, is that not right??
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yeah that is right. mine has 3 from what i could see but it was dark. if there is 4 are they in the same block of connectors? i just wanna make sure i got it right before i start jumping around the room lol.
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@7c9a3ff6b6=mx3gulf:
I thought the easiest way to find out if obd1 or obd2 was to look at the number of plug connectors to the ECU 3 = obd1 - 4 = obd2, is that not right??
Yeh thats what i thought too, pretty much the only certified way.
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i just checked again and it has 3 yellow connectors. a short one in the middle and two slightly longer ones either side. is this orrect? thanks for the help guys
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@957edeb491=daniel:
i just checked again and it has 3 yellow connectors. a short one in the middle and two slightly longer ones either side. is this orrect? thanks for the help guys
I will check on mine tomorrow and let you know
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thanks. all help is appreciated. if it is i will try and source an de or ze engine. the de is supposed to be slightly harder to fit due to the headers being slightly different and im all about how easy it can be lol. if i get a ze i am guessing i will need headers and the whole exhaust system from an mx6 or 626. i am also guessing i will have to mount new brackets on the exhaust and will have to shave a few inches off somewhere along the line to stop it pertruding too much.
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@5b1d5f0b7d=daniel:
thanks. all help is appreciated. if it is i will try and source an de or ze engine. the de is supposed to be slightly harder to fit due to the headers being slightly different and im all about how easy it can be lol. if i get a ze i am guessing i will need headers and the whole exhaust system from an mx6 or 626. i am also guessing i will have to mount new brackets on the exhaust and will have to shave a few inches off somewhere along the line to stop it pertruding too much.
I have a complete untouched klze mx6 with all the parts you need, inc folding mirrors for sale
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Ze and DE are same fitment and both will have same level of trickyness to fit. With the ze there is two intake manifolds, straight neck and curved neck, the straight neck version will mean relocating the battery, trying to get hold of a curved neck ze is very difficult as most are straight necked.
There will prob be a difference in price between a DE and ZE, the DE is much cheaper to get hold of for both engine and ecu, although finding a good mileage DE engine will be harder, as most Ze engines are shipped in from Japan where most low mileage engines are found. you can just bolt the 1.8 exhaust system to both the DE and ZE, this is what i did until i had the cash to get the exhaust upgraded. The stainless steel manifolds release alot of power on both ZE and DE. The rest of the system after that will give you id say 5bhp. De cat if poss and perhaps more. The stainless steel manifolds will need modifying to fit as they are made to fit mx6 and probe where these cars are longer so exhaust section by cat needs trimming/alteration. Make sure your engine mounts are in good nick too, search awr mounts for a good engine mount upgrade. You can use 1.8 gearbox no problem but you will need to upgrade cluch in either de or ze choice, there is only minor changes between the 1.8 and 2.5 engine and it really is almost a like for like swap. Just make sure your car is equipt for the extra bhp, brakes, suspension, tyres etc etc will all make a difference otherwise its going to be useless at getting power down effectively. Dont also think that it is going to be cheap, id buget atleast 1k if you know a cheap mechanic/helper. More if your fully relying on a mechanic. But the end result if you do pull it off is amazing. The ze engine from experience feels like it should have been in the mx-3 from day 1. I dont know about the De. Mx3 gulf has had both de and ze engines and he can advise you on best result engine, but im sure he will say ze too :Dhappy modding!!
