Problem - Car caught in a Floodand won't start.



  • sounds like its still shorting, id suggest getting a heater in the front footwell pointing towards the dash (the heat rising will mean it goes behind the dash) and close the door and leave it to run for a few hours so inside the car gets hot enough to help get rid of water, the cold weather wouldn't have helped with it at all



  • Cheers, insurance was only 3rd party, so no luck there :(

    I have already put a fan heater in there for a long time, but will give it another few hours tonight, then recharge batt tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.



  • don't forget to do what i said above about putting a live directly on the starter terminal



  • OK, I put the heater there for a good 8 hours! So hopefully thats most of the moisture gone!

    I tested the starter today, after recharging the battery and all I get is a loud click, even when I connect it directly…anyone know whats up with it?



  • grab a large spanner or hammer and give the starter a good wack! it may just need freeing up a bit



  • ahhh good call, I should have thought of that!

    Cheers, off to try it now!



  • its just something someone told me once…

    hope it helps



  • Doh! still wont turn, just repeated clicking noise… Anything else I can quickly try?



  • have you tried bump starting it? take the starter out play..

    if it starts by bumping it then you'll know the problem is with the starter



  • Well 6 months ago just after it got flooded and before the battery drained in my garage, the starter motor was fine, but the engine would not start. The recovery people had a go and it sounded like it was gonna go one time, but just cut out again, so maybe there is water in the CAT like someone said…

    However, I thought it might be worth trying it again, unfortunately the car is in my garage, at the bottom of a hill, so there is no chance of bump starting it :(

    Is there any way to check if water got in the CAT?



  • right then, as I see it with an engine you need fuel, air, and spark!
    so make sure you have these.
    with the cat the only way to find out is to take the thing off. it maybe blocked as well!



  • best solution is to throw out the engine and get a ze/de :P



  • that's the easy way out lol :wink: :lol:



  • it might be the engine siezing, i know on a mates it did the same (different car) so we just turned the bottom pulley with a long bar and socket then it turned over fine.

    or try putting it in gear and getting a few mates to rock it, or basically try and push start it with a few mates help, this will force the engine to turn over especially with harsh use of the clutch, if the car stops dead in its tracks (literally making the wheels skid) when you let the clutch up you'll most probably have to get a long bar on the bottom pulley



  • so is it fixed and do we have a happy camper again?



  • No…I have a lot of work to do yet, and not too much time!

    One question about the starter before I take it out...Is it possible that my battery is fcked and thats why starter aint working?

    Its just that its been drained for ages and ive recharged it a few times and was thinking maybe the voltage aint what it used to be...

    How hard is it to take the cat off? I have a custom exhaust that goes from CAT-back, will that make a difference>?



  • yes its entirely possible, but you'd still usually be able to atleast turn it over taking it straight off charge, personally i dont think the problem lies in the starter itself, the car not starting is nothing to do with the cat



  • to remove the cat, its only 4 nuts, however they may/will be seized so a lot of wd40 and an extension on your ratchet! :D



  • breaker bar and air tools make it all so much easier :)



  • @9b8df63809=Unicorn:

    yes its entirely possible, but you'd still usually be able to atleast turn it over taking it straight off charge, personally i dont think the problem lies in the starter itself, the car not starting is nothing to do with the cat

    Well first thing is to take the starter off tomorrow then and try and fix it…I know it's not the main problem, as I tried starting the car loads of times when the starter WAS working and the engine wouldn't have it. BUT, without a working starter motor, I have no way of testing if the actual engine is working, as have no room to bump start it!

    Are you sure it would not be water in the CAT Unicorn? If it's not that then do you have any idea of what else might have been effected by the water? It's not the spark plugs, the water didn't get that high and it's not the air supply either.

    What should I do to fix this starter motor once I've removed it?

    Thanks for all the help, i'd be f***ed without you guys! If I can get it working again I will be over the moon, I love that car!


 

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