6k HID lights
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@c43759e436=djmarcopolo:
There are 2 types HID xenon and HID BI-xenon
The Bi-xenon bulbs have the dipped AND main beam
plain xenon are just normal headlightsOk so what i still dont understand is like dave said on the lights the inside bulbs are main and the outside are dipped. When main are on and i dip them the main go off and the dips come on. So would i need just the x2HID Xenon kits not the bixenon's?
Or i suppose i could just do the main beams as the dips are used much less.
Also i love the delivery chart on the link lol.
Dave, I like the 6k's i think they go a bit blue after that and im not to keen tbh.
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@83af296b42=barrywhite21:
@83af296b42=djmarcopolo:
There are 2 types HID xenon and HID BI-xenon
The Bi-xenon bulbs have the dipped AND main beam
plain xenon are just normal headlightsOk so what i still dont understand is like dave said on the lights the inside bulbs are main and the outside are dipped. When main are on and i dip them the main go off and the dips come on. So would i need just the x2HID Xenon kits not the bixenon's?
Or i suppose i could just do the main beams as the dips are used much less.
Also i love the delivery chart on the link lol.
Dave, I like the 6k's i think they go a bit blue after that and im not to keen tbh.
The dipped and main beam are all in one bulb, the other bulb is just side light, you need the Bi-xenons for the main + dipped or the standards are for dipped only with NO MAIN BEAM
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@933588707d=djmarcopolo:
@933588707d=barrywhite21:
@933588707d=djmarcopolo:
There are 2 types HID xenon and HID BI-xenon
The Bi-xenon bulbs have the dipped AND main beam
plain xenon are just normal headlightsOk so what i still dont understand is like dave said on the lights the inside bulbs are main and the outside are dipped. When main are on and i dip them the main go off and the dips come on. So would i need just the x2HID Xenon kits not the bixenon's?
Or i suppose i could just do the main beams as the dips are used much less.
Also i love the delivery chart on the link lol.
Dave, I like the 6k's i think they go a bit blue after that and im not to keen tbh.
The dipped and main beam are all in one bulb, the other bulb is just side light, you need the Bi-xenons for the main + dipped or the standards are for dipped only with NO MAIN BEAM
He has 2 differnt lights though, 1 for dipped beam and 1 for main beam he no longer has a H4 bulb that does both
barry post a picture of what bulbs are used and i will find u the hid's u need, I am under the impression u might need 2 sets
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@f3b03caa34=DaveMc:
@f3b03caa34=djmarcopolo:
@f3b03caa34=barrywhite21:
@f3b03caa34=djmarcopolo:
There are 2 types HID xenon and HID BI-xenon
The Bi-xenon bulbs have the dipped AND main beam
plain xenon are just normal headlightsOk so what i still dont understand is like dave said on the lights the inside bulbs are main and the outside are dipped. When main are on and i dip them the main go off and the dips come on. So would i need just the x2HID Xenon kits not the bixenon's?
Or i suppose i could just do the main beams as the dips are used much less.
Also i love the delivery chart on the link lol.
Dave, I like the 6k's i think they go a bit blue after that and im not to keen tbh.
The dipped and main beam are all in one bulb, the other bulb is just side light, you need the Bi-xenons for the main + dipped or the standards are for dipped only with NO MAIN BEAM
He has 2 differnt lights though, 1 for dipped beam and 1 for main beam he no longer has a H4 bulb that does both
barry post a picture of what bulbs are used and i will find u the hid's u need, I am under the impression u might need 2 sets
Nuts, he has projectors now, I forgot that bit.
Find out which ones you need, it could be possible to get the correct bulb type then get double dipped and double mains if required or single dipped and double mains :D
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Right thanks guys, thats what i didnt understand about having two sets. I will take some pics tonight and post up.
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i have a set of hids and i did a bit of research and i found out that cheap aint always good most sites advise away from cheap ebay makes made in japan or china also ive found 3 different types of H4 bulb available these are
1 single beam (low)
2 high and low ( which is still 1 bulb but uses a motor to pull the light in and out of the holder creating a brighter light )
3 single hid beam (low) which has a halogen bulb in aswell for high beam
they all use ballasts, of which there are two type norm and slimline both do the same job but slimline are just that … slim. and of these you can buy a 55watt and a 35watt kit, the reason for the ballast is to control the current to the bulb which isnt like a norm bulb where the current is passed through the philliment the hids blubs arc ( constantly spark like a spark plug ) creating the light
the light that is created is messured in kevlins (heat not colour) the higher the kelvin the hotter the bulb creatin a different colour temp on the road.
i personlly have 12000k which has a purple / blue colour temp which is pretty good at showing road signs / white lines / cats eyes etc the only problem i find is that in the rain they dont seem as bright a few of my friends have different colour temps 4500k and 8000k and the lad with the 8000k says the same when it rains the light is poor
also these kits are classed as illegal due to them not having the correct beam pattern acording to this web site www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsaftey/drs/hidheadlamps
but mine passed the MOT ?!?!?!i hope ive helped with what ive found and if you have any problems or you find any other info please let me know.... thanks Stew
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You need the ballasts to power to HID's, they run at 10,000v IIRC, youll also need the wiring and control box. They connect upto your battery directly, mine had 2x20amp fuses, you connect the plug to your old headlight connector. This allows your HID's to function the same as when using your old/normal lights.
With Hi/Lo kits it means that youll get dip and full beam. It uses a solenoid or such to push the bulb forward, which exposes the bulb more and adds a deifferent reflection angle off the reflector lens.
I did this mod on my motorbike and in my opinion it was awful, the light pattern was worse than standard, and if your doing it on refracted glass (standard MX3 lens) then itll be nightmarish. Without trying to sound like a buzz kill, its also illegal, and for a good reason, because the beam pattern/angles arent managed and the reflector isnt designed for those bulbs, you will constantly be blinding other drivers with shards of light. In tunnels mine used to give a disco ball effect to the walls and ceiling!
If you want the best lighting then youll need to retrofit Hi/Lo projectors, these are available on ebay for £70 from china suppliers, uk ones charge well over a £120 last time I looked, for the exact same kit. They require head light disassembly and youll need a clear lens not one with the diffuser blanes, good look with finding one of those (though if you do, let me know cos I want to do this to my mx3)
As for temperature colours, its based on Kelvin thermodynamic (if youve done photography youll be familiar with this already) its basically a scale of object heat but also translates to use as colour for reasons I wont bore you with. In a nutshell the if you think of it as that rainbow song at school Red-Orange-Yellow-Green-and-Blue-Indigo-and-Violet-too. Then youll get the general idea on which way your colour is going, 4300k is often a standard choice to get 'daylight' though in films 5600k is used to get daylight. 6000k has a good daylight colour but with a small hint of blue. Anything beyond 6000k is going into whacky colours like strong blue and purples. I wouldnt recommend anything after 6000k as your actually LOOSING light power after about 5600k. So you may have interesting colours but your lights will be dim compared to someone with 4300-6000k bulbs, aswell as you being illegal, which all seems a bit counter productive when your actual aim is to have more power from your lights.
Run with 35w bulbs, its plenty believe me, itll also free up 50watts from your power draining which your car/stereo with thank you for. The 55watts will obviously be more powerful, but should be avoided as they really arent necessary and its not uncommon for them to melt the headlight housing.
When you use the proper projectors with the HID's then its just wow! (Aswell as perfectly legal) On the bike my girlfriend insisted on following me because she could see better. If someone wants then Ill post up some pic's for you to gander at. Ta, J
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Sorry to hijack this thread, but I read some you guys are using projectors…are these the sort of things...http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120642150614?
These look the nuts, but I don't want to welly if they're not UK road legal.
Cheers all.
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I have them not sure about anyone else though, got my mot coming up very soon so i will let you know but to me they look fine.
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They arrived today :D :D
Will get some pix up for you when I fit them sunday 8) 8)
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Im really struggling to follow whats going on here, cos my HID and Projectors dont fit in with anyone elses ideas of HIDS and projectors. Ill post up pictures of what Im talking about in a bit. I have Bi Xenon HID's from the same projector, and its not one of the solenoid driven ones, to the best of my knowledge those are illegal.
Which brings me onto my next bit, does anyone want to buy the H4 Bixenon HID bulbs mentioned above? Near new, used them for a week before I decided to go back to standard, been sat in a box since.
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Dont know about that, I have fitted and only one works the ballast is broken I am now waiting for a replacement ballast :(
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How long will it take for a ballast to get shipped? You got photos of what bulbs your using? Aswell as a pic of them in use?
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@c8e542cf4c=Jesta:
How long will it take for a ballast to get shipped? You got photos of what bulbs your using? Aswell as a pic of them in use?
Dont have any pics of them working yet, the ballast had a short in it and nearly caught fire :evil:
These are the bulbs supplied, they do JUST fit in the light with the cap on
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Yep, those are the ones that I have sitting in a box, though I paid an extortionate amount cos I got them from the uk. They also didnt put out the HID effect your hoping for.
Dip
Full
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When I tried it, it seemed pretty good on just the one but that was during the day, I will wait for the ballast to arrive and go for it again :D
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time for those pics dj…
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The ballast never turned up lying chinese git, they are on the list to do but they are in a box from moving house and as yet not found them :roll:
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you can get them on ebay in the uk for under £15 inc delivery now so thats not too bad.