KP's MX Track Car aka 'Reddy'
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Go 2.5 for sure. Mine was done by Powerspeed.co.uk have a look at site they specialise in exhausts and manifolds and I trust all their knowledge over a powerflow fitter.
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I'm on 2.25". I asked for 2.5" but was convinced down to 2.25". I'd go for 2.5", gives you head room for future mods. I'll be getting round this problem at some stage with an electric cutout on the decat pipe :)
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Although i could have been put on 2.5 for the reason that i have a sports cat and rear silencer. Maybe if you went de cat youd have the same effect of flow on 2.25.
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KLZE time!!
So I've saved my beans and I'm finally going to go down the route many of you guys (and gals) have already taken. Before I order the engine from Nippon, is there anything extra I'm going to need? So far I'm getting:
- 2.5 KLZE 8)
- KL36 ECU
- New Exedy Clutch for 2.5
- All the bits from the donor 1.8
I assume I can take things like the oil filter (only 4 days old), HT leads, distributor, JE50 VAF, and the rest from the 1.8?
Finally, (and this is the big'un). Being fairly new-ish at this, is there anyone in the Essex area (notably Chelmsford) that has done a conversion and who can give me hand? I can't offer to pay much, but I can offer a mean bacon sarnie or two, and a case or two of your favourite brew! :wink:
It won't be until mid-September anyway as it takes 4 weeks to arrive, but if there is anyone who's free, local and doesn't mind getting dirty for some free food and drink then let me know!
Cheers everyone!
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Awesome 8) Should be a beast with the KLZE in it!
And I see in your sig that you've painted the car satin black, any pics of it? I was half thinking of satin for mine when it goes for a respray soon.
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Sounds like you've got it all covered. Be careful
with Nippon tho as a few have had probs. Get a pic or some part numbers to confirm it's a genuine ze.
You might want to think about engine mounts. I've got mazdaspeed ones which I'm very happy with but are very pricey. Have a look at Marcos page he has awr mounts.
Even tho it's expensive also lightweight flys are brilliant but depends on your budget. I'd say it's easier to do now while engine and box are out.
I'm local in Kent. Know bits about the swap but don't have mechanical experience.!
Your love the engine. It's a beut! :-)
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@1f406e23a9=Ryan:
Awesome 8) Should be a beast with the KLZE in it!
And I see in your sig that you've painted the car satin black, any pics of it? I was half thinking of satin for mine when it goes for a respray soon.
No pictures as of yet, but I'd definitely suggest it if you're thinking about respraying your own. It does look the bomb!! 8)
@1f406e23a9=Garfy1981:
Sounds like you've got it all covered. Be careful
with Nippon tho as a few have had probs. Get a pic or some part numbers to confirm it's a genuine ze.
You might want to think about engine mounts. I've got mazdaspeed ones which I'm very happy with but are very pricey. Have a look at Marcos page he has awr mounts.
Even tho it's expensive also lightweight flys are brilliant but depends on your budget. I'd say it's easier to do now while engine and box are out.
I'm local in Kent. Know bits about the swap but don't have mechanical experience.!
Your love the engine. It's a beut! :-)Thanks Garfy for the insight. I think the flywheel is a little out of my reach at the moment, but the engine mounts seem like a good idea. Just taken a look at the ones on Corksport http://www.corksport.com/product-32511.html and they do seem a little pricey, especially when it'll be £90 shipping, and then added import tax on top of that. Where did you get yours from if you don't mind me asking?
I might call on your expertise when it comes to it!! Some expertise is better than none! :lol:
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The AWRs are fantastic! They tightened up my car so much. I thought, eugh what a boring mod, but makes such a difference… and my mounts were filled with windscreen poly too.
Get the mx-3 rear:
http://store.awrracing.com/products/Engine-Mount-%252d-626-MX%252d6-Probe-1993%252d1997-%252d-Front.html
And the probe front (it actually fits better than the mx3 front):
http://store.awrracing.com/products/Engine-Mount-%252d-MX%252d3-Rear.htmlMaybe you should try it without, then buy them, just so you know what a difference they make;)
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Cheers Marco. Might just get them now as apparently mine are a bit worse for wear anyway!
Can you tell me which Durometer do I need? 88's or 95's? They're soooooo much cheaper than the Mazdaspeed…result!! :P
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I think I'm on 88s. The 95s will have a fair bit of engine vibration in the car, so depends if you like that!
Also, so you know, the xmember holes for the front probe mount have to widened by a few mm. It's piss easy to do, and it means you get an even stronger mount. The mx-3 front from awr has fitment issues, so this is the best route, unless they've since revised it.
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One thing I've seen are s/s exhaust headers…are these required for a ZE conversion, or will the stock headers on my 1.8 fit? I've seen these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-94-95-96-MAZDA-MX6-V6-STAINLESS-EXHAUST-HEADER-MX-6-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem20b009080bQQitemZ140392335371QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories on eBay and was wondering whether they're worth it?
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i had stock 1.8 exhaust bolted to ze on a temporary basis. It dynoed at 146bhp!!. Once manifold was done, 2.5 inch piping, sports cat fitted car dynoed 188bhp. So that should answer your questions!!
The prob is here, the manifold has a kind of pre-cat in it, which massively restricts flow.
sorry to keep adding to your to buy list lol!!, modding aint cheap!!.
Do it nice or do it twice!!!! :D …. has always been my moto!
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Damn you Garfy!! :lol:
I appreciate the advice though, and (now) will definitely be getting myself a set. 8)
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also to piss on your bonfire!, your need to mod your exhaust slightly as the mx6 ones are slightly longer where it connects to the cat.
there was some talk on here about de cat pipes and making a shorter one for people who wanted to use with mx6 headers. So dont stress to much!.
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You're a bundle of fun you are mate!! :P
Just as a thought…will my existing CAT fit onto the mx6 headers? The ones I saw on eBay are 2.5" diameter, and I have no idea of the size of the mx3 CAT. If so, at least I'll be able to do a quick cut 'n shut job on the mid section of my existing exhaust whilst I build up the funds to get a new shiny 2.5" exhaust. If not...then bulls! :shock:
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keep an eye on this thread also shows what i mean on famines comment.
if your/ or someones handy with a welder it not a big problem, just a case of loosing a few inches here and there!!.
djmarcopolo mentioned something about a southampton meet sometime before winter if your up for it, unless your taking mx off road soon for ZE conversion.
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Got that watched mate! 8)
My mate has done a spot of welding on the car in the past, so I'll just employ his usefulness to get sorted in the short-term.
I'm off to the 'Ring in September, and (touch wood) all being ok, I'll be ordering up the parts when I return, so it'll mean I'll be taking her off the road around late Sept/early Oct. If I get her sorted in time, I think a bash down to Southampton might just be what she needs!! Cheers for the invite! :D
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You can run the stock MX-3 exhaust system inc headers and downpipe with your KLZE it is better flowing than the MX-6 headers/downpipe anyway and needs no modding to fit as long as you don't want EGR, which you don't. Then just pop down to the scrappy hacksaw off the two flanges eitherside of the CAT leaving as much pipe eitherside as possible then just cut to size and weld it up to make a cheap decat. Or find an old CAT and chisel out the insides.
Thats as good as you'll get without spending money.
I fitted aftermarket MX-6 branch headers/downpipe £150
Then had them adjusted as the fitment was V Poor £50
Then had a Decat made as the MX-6 downpipe is longer and at a different angle £40
Fitted to a powerflow CAT back £370 ish (was on a car when I got it though :D )
With an Isotta backbox £150 ish (was on car a when I got it though :D )
And now I've got a Remus backbox £180 (currently on my 1.8, but swapping with my Isotta)Keep watching ebay, especially if you don't mind buying and selling cars, as an MX-3 in rough condition/bad engine with an aftermarket exhaust does not seem to fetch any more than it would with a standard one!
Buy it swap the exhausts then sell it on.
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Thanks admin, I appreciate the knowledge.
I must admit (and it is an OCD thing), that when I do the conversion I'll try and get as much new kit as I need, so to maximise the gains from the engine. Added to the fact that my existing headers could really do with being replaced, I think I'll get some new 'uns. :lol:
My shopping list currently looks a lot like what you've already got on the car, although I was hoping to leave the Powerflow exhaust until a bit later. That was my initial query, would the CAT and everything else from my 1.8 connect up to my new shiny MX-6 headers?
Cheers again.
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Ok, so at the moment whilst I'm waiting around I decided to get one of the little things finished…and here it is:
Complete waste of time as you still have to turn the key to 2, but it does have the 'cool-wall' factor I think! 8)
