Update the top 10?
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Totally agree, I have a headset thats from about 1996, its a Kenwood KDC-6060r, it plays CD's well enough and plenty loud enough through my standard issue speakers. Though I will be upgrading as it skips when I go over cats eyes and also has several seconds delay before it can find the next track, Ill also be adding in some new speakers that are rated slightly above the head unit output, not cos I need to, just because I want more clarity, so Im going for polypropylene or something similarly hard rather than paper pulp. For me, clarity wins over volume, if I want super loud, I just turn on my computer, and put my head phones on, I can blow my eardrums out without bothering anyone else.
No one knows who I am either, though I think Lori and Dj are begining to become aware of me due to the amount of PM's I send them asking them about stuff :D I might start righting stuff in rainbow colours too
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@60cb3db039=Jesta:
What Im basically saying is that cars should be rated on the effort and time involved in making them the way they are, not whether you would do it or would want it.
You're shirley not suggesting we vote for cars not based on whether we like them or not, but on how much work went into them?
That godawful automatic gold thing on eBay must surely be the best MX-3 by far by your reckoning then, loads of work put into it.
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Im not a huge fan of it, but it deserves its recognition, and most people have praise for it aswell, its just become a bit of a tramp car now as its always up for sale.
If it wasnt gold youd like it alot more, so what do you propose, since we all have completely different concepts and opinions? No one car will ever be the best if you factor in everyones personal tastes, because there will always be people who dont agree that XXX's car is the best, in which case, it wont be the best because it isnt unanimously recognised as the best, which leads to there never been a 'best car' just applicants.
Im not a tower enthusiast but you have to appreciate the Eiffel Tower for its engineering and time in design and development, yet its just a completely useless tower, if someone went and built a straight up tower made from just concrete and a ladder right next to the eiffel tower you wouldnt be impressed at all and just think that it was pointless. Theres a reason people pay alot of money for hand crafted items even though the same item could be bought for a fraction of the price from a mass produced batch made in china. Workmanship.
But before you get your knickers in a twist even further, that car is no longer owned by a UK-MX3 member, and anyone who now buys it wont have done the work themselves, so it forfeits its right to be given merit. However the fact that it once was #1 on this forum clearly shows that your expectations of your peers are wrong. Just because everyone else is currently hating on it doesnt mean you have to aswell, are all your opinions based on what other people say?
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Well no, I just don't like the car. Paint it whatever colour you wish, it's just not a car I like.
Also, no car will ever be the best if you vote your way either, some people will appriciate the work gone into Marco's supercharged beast while others will appriciate the work gone into say, that gold thing. Of course, both have had lots of work done, but it would be rather silly to try argue that one has had more work done on it than the other, therefore it's the better car and should be higher placed in the Top 10.
@f2cca7ea1d=Jesta:
But before you get your knickers in a twist even further, that car is no longer owned by a UK-MX3 member, and anyone who now buys it wont have done the work themselves, so it forfeits its right to be given merit.
Ah yes, only cars which had loads of work done to them by the current owner are eligible to be entered into a Top 10 list of MX-3's, once said owner sells a car does it lose it's place on the list?
Not trying to be argumentative or anything dude, but doing it any other way than the car we like the most is going to a tad awkward, IMO anyway.
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@503dc87746=Jesta:
However the fact that it once was #1 on this forum clearly shows that your expectations of your peers are wrong. Just because everyone else is currently hating on it doesnt mean you have to aswell, are all your opinions based on what other people say?
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Expectations of my peers.... :? Huh? I just really don't like the car. Is that too hard to figure out?
But yes, all my opinions are based on what other people say. It's not just that I don't like the car or anything. :roll:
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Over on another car forum every year we done TS car of the year…
We all posted a max of 3 pics of our car, a small bit about it and let everyone vote!
It was literally a case of most votes wins, it didnt matter if everyone agreed or not!
Let the people decide! Surely you could just put 'The top 5 voted cars'?
Either that... or just dont have the page?
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Either way, or whatever way I don't mind, one thing me, myself, I and my OCD can't stand is to see old data still shown as current or at least, not updated to say it's old data.
I've heard that the UK-MX3 domain is being xfered into new hands and the new admin I hope doesn't just keep it ticking over, that's my angle, that's my goal.
RS, I can see the amount of love and work gone into your car, I dislike it myself but I can understand the hours you must have put in to get it looking like that, but I can see teh same with Nightcrawler even if his car is being a bitch.
You don't have to find the car you vote for worthy enough to get your rocks off over ^-x nor do you have to want to drive it yourself.
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@ab3360642b=Jesta:
Just because everyone else is currently hating on it doesnt mean you have to aswell
I hated it first. Everyone else is just copying me.
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I still think it is one of the best kitted mx3s out there. Not everything about it appeals to me, but it was done with a certain finesse. It was the engine dissappointed me the most about it.
I'm inclinded to agree that the chart, if made, should represent the active cars of uk-mx3. Cars that people can join up, and see the worklogs are still active. Unless there's a car of ukmx3 past with wilkos, tommy Ds and rsroadkillas etc?! I think I'd rather see a showcase of various types of mx3 than a 123 chart. Really though almost anything fresh would be an improvement.
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**Okay. A way to do this without bias.
The top ten cars are to be drawn from ten categories. Each car can only be entered in one category and it's the owner's decision into which category their car goes. Each category goes to a vote and the winners form the top ten.
My suggested categories:
1. Concours - for the best unmodified '3
2. OEM - for the best '3 modified with '3-specific upgrades (they have to be OE or OE-sized parts; factory options, including JDM parts, are allowed)
3. Show & Shine - for the cleanest '3
4. ICE - for the most 'sound' '3
5. Upgrade Inside - for the nicest '3 to be in, the best interior
6. Hot '3 (road) - for the hottest, road legal, modified '3. Performance is king.
7. Hot '3 (track) - for the '3 which rules the circuits and strips (may be road legal too)
8. Cool '3 - for the coolest, modified '3. Style is the word.
9. MXt3eme - the most extreme '3 around. No rules.
10. Lucky Dip - for anything that doesn't quite fit any of the other categories.Once we've got the 10 winners, there could be a follow-up vote of the ten against each other to determine what the best of the best is too, or we could leave it at that.**
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i don't see a problem with that bud.
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That's a pretty awesome idea actually.
To keep something like that updated we'd probably have to do the voting once a year?
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So…... Why are we caring about who has the best car again? Do we attend shows as a massive group? No, usually about 3-4 at the most. Do we have regular meets? No.
Here's a thought :idea: , why not scrap the top 5 cars and just have a regular garage system? Seems like a much, much, much easier solution and stops people from spitting their dummies out or being offended.
Oh, I think I just solved the whole voting problem :wink:
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We have a garage system?
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@0bde9e52c8=Famine:
Once we've got the 10 winners
So that would be all of us?
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**Pretty much, yes.
Lucky Dip for Bert? :D**
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@dcf95b88f0=Famine:
**Pretty much, yes.
Lucky Dip for Bert? :D**
Lol, what does he win? A new set of bolts?
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1 week without something breaking on him
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@33df77705b=Lori:
1 week without something breaking on him
Oooof, that's pushing it :lol: (not literally though, they's heavy cars man!).
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ive been thinking about this for a few days having a top 10 or a top 5 is not a bad idea but ive had another idea how about once a month have a differant car with 3 pics and a short spec and discription of the work gone into the car and mybe some plans for the years to come and then everyone has a chance to show there pride and joy its just an idea i just think having a top 5 my just cause some grumpy people.
also as far as club meets we need to now how many people that are willing to go to meets and how far there willing to travel i now that some people from the south cant travel for meets at the north and same the other way i think jap fest is ideal for the south we at least need to do a meet for the north and midlands.
just a few ideas i had(sorry for any bad spelling lol)
